By Juan Basso. Yves Domergue (French) and Cristina Cialceta (Mexican) were two militants abducted during the dictatorship PRT in September 1976. Their families sought for 34 years until they were identified this year in a tomb in a cemetery NN South Santa Fe. Eric's brother, Yves, said Tuesday in the trial judge that part of the gang who served during the dictatorship in the Information Service of the Police of Rosario, but months ago, and had told his story to the Journal of Judgement.
Direct interview
Yves Domergue and Cristina Cialceta Marul were members of the Partido Revolucionario de los Trabajadores (PRT) when they were kidnapped on September 20, 1976 in the city of Rosario. French-born Mexican him and her, their fates were unknown until a few weeks ago, when in which DNA samples genebank Argentine Forensic Anthropology Team determined that the remains of two bodies found in a tomb NN, located in the cemetery of Melincué, were his own. A long chain of solidarity built the research came full circle over 34 years of absence, a judge who dared to investigate terrorism in the state, a court clerk who refused to burn the file, a woman who brought flowers systematically the unmarked grave, a teacher who woke up in their high school students curious about the case, teens who moved several yards to the history, the state that collected the concerns of kids and a family who never stopped seeking truth and demanding justice. Eric Domergue, brother Yves, have agreed on an extensive interview that long history of abductions and encounters.
- How to start the first story of disappearance and after games? "Since
kidnapped my brother and Cristina for us there was no track or clue as to where they could have been. Yves our family had literally swallowed by the earth. We had witnessed the abduction or the survivors of concentration camps. The hope of finding them was nil. But time passed until May this year anthropologists the Argentine Forensic Anthropology Team (EAAF) officially informed me that they found and identified.
But behind all this is a wonderful story that we can say, is crowned with the victory. Because Melincué, where they were finally buried as NN since September 76, the entire population was mobilized in a while, because they had two boys who had thrown them long shot and had a great need in the population and the region to discover of who they were, they wanted to find families and restore their identity. In this
intervened a lot of people, from the diggers that were passed down from generation generation where was the location of graves, because even though they were in the cemetery of Melincué, there was no site-specific reference, then a lawyer who in 2000 revived a little about the cause, an employee of the courts of Melincué that when the record had to be destroyed was saved, she said. "No, surely this record has elements that lead to the conclusion that these bodies were not simple murder, it is appropriate that we keep." Without this record we had not ever come to rediscover their bodies. And finally Paul Pizzurno of Melincué school where a teacher, Juliana Cagrandis, poses a fifth-year students to do work on memory for presentation to grandparents and other human rights organizations, and what better than an interest in these two young men, I remember, she had 20 and 22 when they kill him, which assets were already in the region, on which everyone wanted to know who they were, what luck had run, if their families were seeking. And that simple little job, or school that collects the data that was in the dossier prepared by the judge at the time, the daughter of the person who found them in the town of Carreras, Beti Buitrón, this work is the end of the thread from which it starts to pull.
This report was presented to some agencies in 2008 until they reach the Human Rights Secretariat of Santa Fe, where they begin to collate the information in this report with the existing complaints that could come match. So in November of that year played on my door and started to build together the final stage of this finding.
-Yves, you and your family are of French origin, but your accent is pretty Argentina. What is the family history that brought them to this country?
"My Argentine accent is because I have over fifty years living in the country. My father was sent by a French company in Buenos Aires in 1959 and had three sons: the eldest, Yves, then come I and my sister, the only woman of nine children. My parents stayed fifteen years, became in 1974. But both my brother and I decided to stay, we had chosen this land to life projects. My brother especially for a political project. So it was a typical immigrant family middle class, no problem, that permanently lived astride the two cultures. We spoke French family, went to French school. But constantly traveled, we traveled across the country, established many contacts with the Argentine and that's what we absorbed well, especially my brother, who was what led to these social concerns first, and then political.
- What was Yves, how was that process that led him to embrace the revolutionary struggle in the PRT?
"On the one hand was the contact with different Argentine populations, because we traveled a lot but doing camps, finger, knowing the reality of the people of the north and south of the country, this country that seemed so huge, especially coming from Europe.
Then one side was the social consciousness that was awakening, and the other not forget that we were in the seventies. Yves graduated from high school in year 71 and started college in engineering, which in those days was an explosion of participation and commitment political. That led first to a social commitment, then a student and ultimately political, and much stronger when he joined the PRT. In this militancy was able to meet Cristina, who also was active in the PRT were a couple, they could love each other and be together a while until they were killed.
- How to analyze this scenario of trials that are being developed across the country?
"I think the military never imagined, in that bubble of impunity in which they lived so many years that the bones talk. DNA and the advances of science are relatively new, but now only found remains, but that DNA testing can detect the identity of individuals.
On the other hand when I say that the bones speak is that in the case of Yves and Cristina could scientifically determine how they were killed, most shot, finished under his right eye. Moreover, within the anthropologists found seven tombs projectiles. It is worth mentioning here that also in this case we also have the case brought by a judge in Melincué in the same time when the bodies were found. There the judge and the local police did autopsies accordingly. Now all these tests can be part of Díaz Bessone trial that is taking place in Rosario.
"In the trial that is carried out against Diaz Bessone and five more suspects, including 92 cases under investigation for unlawful deprivation of liberty and torture suffered by Cristina Cialceta. Why not be included for Yves?
"I am called to testify as a witness in the case of Cristina, who now need to change the face of kidnapping and torture to murder, because it finally showed the bodies to prove murder. And, to show the two bodies together reinforces the claim that always did with my family who had been abducted together. What happens is that I understand that as Yves lived in Buenos Aires and Rosario was passing through, presumably there was no evidence passing through this city.
-The disappearance of the bodies of the victims was one of the objectives of state terrorism. Do you the family, who never stopped searching for their loved ones, do not feel they have achieved a small victory with the discovery of the remains of Yves and Cristina?
"Indeed. And when we talk of victory, with my family want to leave a clear message: we say that this is a victory for the 30,000, that may represent a victory for all, even for an instant. Because this is a collective struggle. Long ago it ceased to be a single cause and became a collective. Just as others helped us to find and Cristina Yves us also help find all missing.
- How did your parents back in France, received the news of the disappearance of Yves? What did you do when you find out?
"The old man was a genius. I take my hat every time I mention it. My parents, in general, always arguing with my brother. We came from a very Christian family. When the older children started to leave the religious theme and began to walk away from the Church, obviously created some family discussions. And when my brother embraced Marxism-Leninism, even more. It was always all with great respect, never could agree, but the discussions were given always with great respect and love. And when he kidnapped the son was the first to say "I do not stop until I get it back" and never stopped.
now fully search for Yves, as my father had been a French businessman in Argentina, was in constant contact with other French companies, even though he was settled again in France. Every so often was a French colleague and said: "Lord Domergue, please stop a little shake of her son that the military was very upset." And he said, "Well, give me back my son and then we talk." My dad did not stop ever.
- How was ended by organizing a press conference to announce the meeting of bodies in the Casa Rosada?
"It was unprecedented, strange, but went very well. When I tell the French ambassador to tell you all this, I ask you to do a press conference at the embassy. I quickly replied that yes, actually receive much support from the embassy. Then the ambassador says, "The President may invite, too." Do not forget that France and Argentina have led to joint United Nations convention on forced disappearance of persons. And since this is a very special case, since they are two citizens, Yves and Cristina, one French and one Mexican ie two strangers who gave their lives for the country, the issue gathered enough to consider it special. Through various officials the president learned of the idea while traveling in China and quickly said yes, but as we go into the Casa Rosada.
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